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    • #53861
      Packerton
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      hi everyone, hope everyone is good. i just stumbled across this website after losing 900 dollars on the h2h bet type in bet365 ( very very very addictive bet type)

      i am trying to find all the words to describe my situation but i feel like my brain is deliberately to block whats been happening for some strange reason so i will add points as we go

      pretty much im in my late 20s, been gambling since 18, started out going after school doing 1 dollar bets and now doing 250 dollar bets not even blinking.

      i started out doing win and places,never was big fan of doing tri and f4. then got into sports betting,
      most which is college football,rugby union and rugby league as it is big down here in australia. started out going down to the local betting place which is called tab,
      then as the online bookmakers came, joined and signed up with all them, and excluded myself as the losses got too difficult to chase down. i would put in 20 in an account, hope to make it into a couple of k,
      then withdraw it. i would hit that goal i wanted most of the time actually, but most cases i would never withdraw. i would be like ok, so if this has been working so far, a couple more wont hurt and then i would put for eg, i would be on 2195.34,
      i would say ok play with the 195.34 and withdraw the 2k but it rarely happened. i would lose that 195.34 and that would for some reason trigger me to get it back altough im already in huge profit. so then most likely i would bet more and more until i got it back , and again, most cases when i started to lose, did get it back ( this is all why its so hard for me to quit because of this of this cycle knowing that i can pick the placegetters, it is is beyond annoying and frustrating), i accept i wont get all races but my strike rate is pretty good , just my money management becomes very terrible as i keep winning. but anyways, for the last 2 years or 3 years, i have shifted away from win and place bets to more h2h bets in races which bet365 offer, im still doing those sports i mentioned and of course in sports, its win 1 lose 1 just like the races. i have no problem in accepting that there will be good and bad days in this sport. since my accounts were all previously closed,
      i would make fake ones and for some reason they would actually verify the account which is weird. so pretty much i have been in the cycle of last 2 or 3 years making and closing bet365 accounts and its sickening for sure. pretty much i hit my goal all the time, my statements will back it up, its just that money managment is really bad when i start to win. h2h race bets is much more easier than picking a place because i only battle with the other hose and i an finish in any posotion, as long as i beat the other horse matched with me. always having a good start betting in every account then all the time it goes wrong and lose it all and then even more. it doesnt matter if iwon today and stopped, im back at it again the nextd day, i cant sleep whether immup and winning cause i see alot of value on , i cant sleep when i lose, cause i think about is the h2h betting in races, since its pretty much offered on all races except harness racing. the only way for me to stop is to not even do 1 bet and i know this very well and its all good now when i feel depressed but i know when i get funds in a couple days , my batteries will be recharged and ill ask myself, why dont i try a 20 like all these other times and hopefully you learnt from all the other times not to withdraw,
      and this time you will withdraw , but it never ever happens. im pretty much going to bet all day all afternoon all night until i feel content or tired. i do this because i know the outside in h2h race bets of course gets up and i do not want to miss out on the value

      so i want to ask how do you fight the thought that you are missing out on a value bet? for example, 1 horse in h2h would be usually 1.60 and 1 horse would be 2.50+, it absolutely sucks when i love picking the value and it actually happens, how can i tell myself ” its fine, why do you even care about this ? why are you so worried on missing out on the value?”

      i really need help in fighting this value thinking , i feel like if this logic doesnt get fixed, i can literally keep backing the value bet on the h2h race each and every race and hope for the best.

      this is just one of the things i can think on working on right now, any helpwould be appreciated, please ask anything and happy to discuss, sorry if i didnt know i am posting in right area

    • #53862
      Steev
      Participant

      You are in the right area – if you are committed to stopping gambling for good. I’m not sure I am getting that from your post.

      Your post sounded like me when I was in action – confused, trying to justify carrying on with gambling in the “if I could just stop when I am winning” sort of mode.

      The truth is that when I was gambling – I could NOT stop. That was what made me a compulsive gambler. Ok, I might be able to stop for a day or two or occasionally even longer. What I could not do was obsessing about gambling, should I go back to it ? How much can I afford to bet? Where will the money come from? What can I do differently but still bet? Until I got the message – JUST STOP!

      So if you really want to stop gambling – read some of the other threads here – you will see that there are 4 things you need to do: 1) ban or bar yourself from all the places where you gamble and where you could be tempted to gamble in the future. 2) Remove yourself from access to money. If possible get a trusted loved one or friend to handle your money, but if not just carry the bare minimum to survive. 3) Restrict the time you have to gamble – work longer hours (helps to pay off debts) go to recovery meetings and/or find another use of time (Netflix seems to be popular!) 4) Get great support for yourself – let loved ones know and ask them to help you; find out about self-help in your area Gamblers’ Anonymous or similar and go to meetings, see if you can get counselling through your medic or some other means. Log into a support group here – new members are welcome all the time but there are specific groups for you on Mondays and Thursdays (GMT.) I hope this helps.

    • #53863
      Packerton
      Participant

      hi thanks for your reply , hope all is well. thank you for your tips, but can i know how to not feel bad when i miss out on a race that i was going to get right? if i can get past missing out on a race, i should be on my way to quit, im trying to get help from people who mostly do h2h bets on bet365 aswell, any tips and thoughts are appreciated 

    • #53864
      Paul Dent
      Participant

      Hello and thanks for starting a thread in the Gambling Therapy forums

      Here at Gambling Therapy we pride ourselves on being a caring and diverse online community who can help and support you with the difficulties you’re currently facing. We understand that this might be a tough time for you, particularly if you’re new to recovery, so come here as often as you need to and participate in the forums, access online groups and connect to the live advice helpline if you need one to one support. We’re in this together!

      Here on the forum you can share your experiences in a safe, supportive and accepting environment. The beauty of writing it all down is that you can take your time and you will be creating a record of your progress that you can look back on if it ever feels like you’re not moving forward. So, share as much or as little as you like but do try to stick to keeping just one thread in this forum so people know where to find you if they want to be updated on your progress or share something with you.

      As well as the forums New Members are invited to join Charles in the New Members Practical Advice Group On Mondays at 21:00 (UK) and Thursday at 19:00(UK)

      And on that note….

      I’m going to hand you over to our community because I’m sure they will have some words of wisdom for you 🙂

      Take care

      The Gambling Therapy Team

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    • #53865
      Seanraj4731
      Participant

      Good day bro you have went through it all brother and now you come to a junction at life where its time to stop. I am gonna find my self worth. rewire my mind. focus on self worth and recovery. STOP chasing losses. forget this gambling life and start renewed. the time is now brother. you got this. keep on this forum and read other ppl testimonies and rediscover your mind and observe the flow of your thoughts.thank you. be free from it all. i am rooting for you.

    • #53866
      Packerton
      Participant

      thanks seanraj for your reply, appreciate the nice words. i am on day 2 now gambling free, still hard to get to some sleep, but hopefully get out of the gambling cycle. yes no moree chasing losses, i have no control when i gamble and win, i actually win every single day on h2h bets and i have alot of oppurtunity to stop and withdraw and i dont, ihave no control, bets keep getting bigger and of course all this going to get worse as age and time goes on.

    • #53867
      i-did-it
      Participant

      Hi Packerton,
      The biggest win in the world will only fuel out addiction as you so eloquently described. Once we cross the line into addiction we will never be able to hold on to our wins.

      The surprising thing for me is that once I stopped gambling and set up really sensible (with really low payments) plan with my creditors I am able to afford the things I thought I had to gambled for – instead of waiting to buy things when I win (things which never materialised how ever big the win) I can do it now!
      I will never be a millionaire – but I don’t meed to be – I have enough , I am content and my life has improved so much .

      Hang in here – you are doing really well! Keep telling yourself that you have enough !

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