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    • #42059
      Johnny B
      Participant

      I am new to the gambling therapy forum, but I am very glad to be here. This is my story…. I have been gambling since childhood. I got really hooked at the age of 18 when Dog Racing was legalized near my home. I would spend 4 days a week at the track. I met numerous “friends” at the track and it became my life.

      I lived for the moment I could go to Las Vegas. Counted down the days literally. I turned 21 in the air on the way to Las Vegas. Four days later I had lost several thousand dollars, virtually my life savings at the time, as I had been pissing it away on the dogs slowly the previous three years.

      I hooked up a good income job. It required very long days, leaving the house at 8am getting home around 10 pm. However the riverboat casino was “on the way home”… Actually, it wasn’t, but I convinced myself it was. I would stop at least two or three times weekly.

      Over the course of the next 10 years I would accumulate over 30k in debt…mostly due to gambling. I would take a loan from my brother to cover the hole that I put myself in. Unfortunately, he was unaware, but he was enabling me to continue my downward spiral. Once again in significant debt, I had my best friend offer to loan me the money to get out of the crushing debt of credit card interest. Once again, enabling my downward spiral.

      I worked tirelessly making a six figure income, yet somehow I couldn’t afford anything. I did buy a house ( with no money down) in 2006, and bought a car with an extremely small down payment…thinking I could afford it.

      Fast forward a few years (2009) to be exact. I owe my brother a huge amount of money, I owe my best friend a significant sum, and I am again 40k in credit card debt… Three months behind on my house and car payment.

      I file chapter 13 bankruptcy, to save my house and car. I work on a payment plan to pay back the back payments on the house, thankfully I make a reasonable income….but I don’t stop gambling.

      It is curbed a bit because of the garnishment of my wages for the bankruptcy, but any extra dollars I have feed my fire.

      I finally self exclude from the riverboats, figuring if I make it more difficult to gamble I won’t do it as much. Enter the internet…Dog racing to be exact, hello, old friend. A mistress long thought forgotten, costing me hundreds of dollars weekly.

      Getting by, by the skin of my teeth….living almost check to check (several overdrafts in between), I meet the woman of my dreams. She becomes my wife.

      I am honest about my gambling, to a degree. She knows I do it, she knows I am bankrupt, but she has no idea how often, or how much.

      Illinois (where I live) legalizes video gambling in most bars and restaurants. There are no stop gaps like the self exclusion on the riverboats. Luckily I think machines are stupid, and I would never lose my money on those things…..until I started, and chased, and chased, and chased.

      Thousands of dollars later, and my wife of one year is on the verge of leaving me. The woman I had dreamed into reality, Is about to walk away, because I have chosen financial infidelity. I have chosen to feed the vixen that has caused me so much pain, so much suffering, and a world of heart ache.

      I have stopped in the past, but to no avail. But I am ready. As of this writing, I am 45 days gamble free….and what is funny, I don’t miss it (not nearly as much as I though I would)… My bankruptcy has been discharged…My credit is in a good place, I have even settled my debt with my brother and my friend.

      The “reasons” for gambling really don’t exist, yet I have put these barriers up for many years. I can’t say for certain that I will never gamble again, but I can say, with the help of a marriage counselor, my wife’s support, and looking at the pluses and minuses with a clearer mind….I don’t think I need to anymore.

      Thank you for your time

    • #42060
      Monica1
      Participant

      Well done on your gamble free time and for sharing your story. You have a lot going for you, a well paid job, discharge from bankruptcy, credit in a good place and a wife who supports You. We all thought the slots were stupid, I got to 54 before I started playing them and was very quickly hooked. Have you considered handing over the finances to your wife? With everything is god place,you need those barriers in place to stop this insidious addiction from raising its ugly head again the sleeping monster…. I can think of nothing,worse than to get into a good place financially and then start the destruction all over again, which I have done in the past. And if you start again, it will drag you further and further down to a place you cannot get out of, prison, insanity or prison. It doesn’t care. One thing we know on this site is that you cannot do this journey alone and will need support either from GA or counselling. Remember, a compulsive gambler never wins…

    • #42061
      Johnny B
      Participant

      I have been in the process of handing over the finances.. At first I resisted, even protested against the idea….But as of today, I now use a prepaid debit card, and do not have access to credit, or even my bank card. I will live on a reasonable “allowance” deposited on the prepaid card weekly. I am actually excited to know that if I lapse, I can do very little damage…however, the goal today, and every day is not to lapse. My marriage is getting to be in a better place, because my wife has seen a much more concerted effort put forth by me…such as my participation on these forums, and the financial blockers we are putting in place… Part of me is sad that I can’t just stop on my own, and on my terms, but I’ve tried in the past to stop… it is much better and safer to keep the extra money out of my hands. And as far as counselling goes, it was against every moral fiber of my being once upon a time…but once I gave it a try, and opened my mind to it, it is very practical, and extremely helpful……but we need to want to allow that help to have it be beneficial….and I am grateful for it.

    • #42062
      finding_laura
      Participant

      Hi. Johnny and welcome to the forum. I was ready to take the advice on this forum to save myself from gambling when I faced the break up of my family as a result of my gambling and the loss of our family home. I started gambling addiction counseling, turned over finances, used this site and went to GA. It all helped tremendously. I didn’t have a bet for many years! I am back here working on my recovery again as I feel I stopped investing that time which is what lead to a relapse. I’m happy to say I’m back on track. Well done on your gamble free time and the steps you are taking to make a recovery. Take care, Laura

    • #42063
      kathryn
      Participant

      Welcome to the forum,
      Well done on your gamble free time, seems you are doing everything you can to keep your marriage, and indeed your life together.
      Gambling is such a secretive addiction, I’m sure all of us have tried to stop on our own, I know I certainly did.
      I don’t know if it can be done. I’m happy to say that the support and advice I took when I found GT have helped me for a long time now. I’m not without slip ups….but I’ve learnt that becoming complacent is just not worth it.
      I’m so happy your wife is supporting you, and I’m looking forward to hearing more from you.
      Take care, love K xx

    • #42064
      Monkey15
      Participant

      I appreciate you sharing your story Johnny and the fact you have over 40 days GF is a real positive start. I myself am just hitting 53 days gamble free. Isn’t it a relief that we can do this? I too am not sure what is behind me starting to gamble and form this nasty addiction. This is perhaps where the hard work begins, trying to figure out why this happened to us. Stay strong and enjoy another gamble free day with us all.

      Tina

    • #42065
      charles
      Moderator

      Hi Johnny,

      Well done on the steps you have taken so far. Maybe think about ust having the money you need on that card on a daily basis rahter than a weekly allowance.

      We always talk about “Giving control” of our finances to someone else but in reality we are doing the opposite – by bringing in that accountability we are regaining control over or finances – we certainly don’t have control over it when we gamble.

      Keep posting.

    • #42066
      Johnny B
      Participant

      Thank you Laura. Because of my job it is difficult to attend meetings. I have found great support on this sight. For now I have to trust myself, and with the support of my wife and life coach (I like that term better than counselor), hope I make the right decisions every day to come. I wish you the very best on your journey, and if I can be of any support or assistance please let me know.

    • #42067
      Johnny B
      Participant

      Thank you for your reply. I am finding quite a few forums that just seem to end.. Hopefully we can all gain support from one another. I think I am fortunate that my “issues” seem more mental than physical, because I find myself not longing for the rush. There is no doubt I “loved” the rush… but like anything bad for you I don’t love it as much as I thought I did. Good Days ahead on your journey!!

    • #42068
      Johnny B
      Participant

      53 days.. way to go.. Are you like me where each day gets a little easier.. I’ve noticed my triggers aren’t as strong. Even if the urge creeps in, it is easier to dismiss it thinking of the hard work I need to do to regain some of the broken trust with my wife. I really hope I can get back to where it was, but unfortunately, I think this will stick in the back of the mind for a very, very long time… Good Luck… One day at a time

    • #42069
      Johnny B
      Participant

      Thanks for the advice. I am actually proud because I had suggested this concept to my wife and marriage counselor prior to finding gambling therapy online. I have to admit, there is a little psychological stigma once you have an allowance, but the reality is I put myself in this position. If I would have been more sincere with my wife, and did this years ago, when we started dating, how much better off would I be today????
      Honestly, I don’t want to think about the past anymore. There are new days ahead, fresh paths to take, and a lot of wonderful experiences to have that will make the old memories fade away….good riddance!
      ps
      Today is a good day… no gambling for me…again!

    • #42070
      kathryn
      Participant

      I always become a bit nostalgic this time of year.
      You’re right, no looking back! We can’t change the past, when I think about where I was 8 years ago, and my life now, thank god i stopped when I did.
      It wasn’t without loss. I will never own a house, it took me a long time to get over losing my home and the realisation that I will never have another one was hard to bear.
      In saying that, I’ve learnt to come to terms with it and move forward with my life.
      I have a wonderful family, my bills are paid, food on the table, and I feel happier than I’ve ever felt. No amount of money can measure up to that. My self worth is restored .
      I hope you have a wonderful Christmas, and make some of those good memories !!!
      Love k xx

    • #42071
      finding_laura
      Participant

      Thought I’d give you a little bump up Johnny! It was good talking last evening. Well done on your gamble free time. I had a little read back and see that I had posted! 🙂 Being a part of this community provides support, accountability in a sense, and understanding. Keep connecting with the fact that gambling has never brought anything good into your life. A win is just means to keep the out of control freight train running. Now and again we may fall into a pattern where we feel we aren’t doing too much damage. But when you stand back and take a look at where it has taken you, it’s easy to see we just fool ourselves when in the heat of the bet. I wish you all the best. One day at a time!

    • #42072
      Johnny B
      Participant

      Hi Laura
      Thank you for the kind words. One thing I am slowly realizing is even when I have gambled under control, I still lost massive amounts of money. $50 here $100 there, multiple times a week really ads up. In the forums, the devastating losses always seem to be the ones that push us to look in the mirror, but I hate to even thing of the thou$ands of $$$ that has gone out the door “responsibly” gambling. I just came out of Christmas with a significant amount of spending, and I am not broke….I am not broke, because I haven’t pissed anything away. Going into the new year, this is the first New Year that I can expect to save money because I do not plan on losing any!
      Happy New year
      John

    • #42073
      Johnny B
      Participant

      Hi Kathryn
      I agree with you about the self worth. Outside of the financial burden caused, the shame and self pity was the worst for me. I have struggled with self esteem most of my life, and never felt more pathetic than asking for financial help, and hiding my habit. Stepping back and taking it all in. Going through the stages of addiction/grief
      Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance.
      –sadness in a sick way because I was convinced that I enjoyed playing…..which I am sure I did….however, winning was just a delay in the inevitable losing that was to follow!
      Still on the right path. Actually lost track of the exact number, but I know the effort is the best I have ever put forth!!!

    • #42074
      i-did-it
      Participant

      Hi Jonnhy , was nice speaking to you in group .
      That’s a great positive post Jonnhy – it’s amazing how we don’t really value those small amounts when we are gambling but when we are skint they don’t seem like such small amounts .
      Here’s to a positive new year for all of us .

    • #42075
      Johnny B
      Participant

      The nickels and dimes add up huge. I wonder if we all quite while whenever we were head small amounts, it would be the casinos, and bookmakers writing to each other on the forums. I always had a twisted dream when I gambled feverishly. (Blackjack was my game, and I lost thousands, upon thousands on the Riverboats in Illinois)….I had wished I would hit it huge (enough where I couldn’t possibly lose it all back) and as they were kissing my ass like the phony bullshit Casino’s do, I would self exclude and leave on top. Too bad that the only true part of that story is that I self excluded….which in turn may have been the very best first step towards taking control of my life back. Funny I though that the self exclusion from the boats would curb my playing…that is when the dogs, and the machines started. Bastards. They take advantage, and for years I let them. My turn to be in control. (I hope)

    • #42076
      Johnny B
      Participant

      I have re-read all of the wonderful posts made on my forum. I recognize that Gambling Therapy might be the best part of my recovery so far. I get a sense of pride when I can offer advice to try to help others struggling, and odd sense of relief knowing that I am not alone in the struggle, and a sense of sadness when I see so many people in the grip of something so strong.
      But most of all, I see the resolve of a group of people, who have struggled with a major issue in life, all trying to make it better. This isn’t a glorified recovery. It is something mainstream society doesn’t understand, but the struggle is real. I have said it before….I am very proud of each and everyone of us for trying to make our lives better! There are bumps in the road, as we all know, but we do have hope, and with the support of all of you/us we can help each other make a positive difference in our lives!!

    • #42077
      Johnny B
      Participant

      Just under 3 months gamble free for me… I don’t remember the exact date… I just know I started on GT about 30-45 days after my last ill fated attempt.
      I am not bragging, but I hope that anybody who thinks it is impossible, use me as an example….I refused to stop, I didn’t care if it was possible…but then one day it clicks… I hope I can keep it going!!!
      I know I will not gamble today…and that is all that matters… one day at a time, and it is not so hard!
      God Speed!!

    • #42078
      i-did-it
      Participant

      Well done Johnny
      Just missed u in chat
      U are right though – the chats are very difficult to use now and so short no one really gets to say much

    • #42079
      Johnny B
      Participant

      I am over 4 months gamble free. I am updating this because I have seen some new people on chat recently, and I hope my story can help at least a little bit.
      Bravo to all of us who have tried to control the beast, and to those of us who relapse, do not feel ashamed… Just try to get yourself right, and use the support that is available to us!
      Hope all of you have a great run at life!!!

    • #42080
      Jarmo
      Participant

      Hello!! Im start cambling 1 year ago! And im lose prox 40 thosand euros !! Today i finally understand im really need some help!! My last year is beend so difficult all the time big stress , cant sleep normally! All the time im hope win this money back what im already lose!! And then im loose agan and agan!! Im played away not my self money im playd away my company money !! Now i have really big problem!! Cant live like that.

    • #42081
      Johnny B
      Participant

      It is good that you are here.  The cycle never ends.  The chase is where we all fail.  The only way to guarantee that you won’t lose more is to not play.  It is the most simple of advice, but if we never played, would we all have the money that we have lost?  We never know hat could have happened if we never played…but at this point in my life, it would take a miracle to just be even again….And you know what, if we won it all back, we would piss it away again.  That is the truth, and the truth hurts sometimes.  

      Best wishes for you on your recovery.  One day at a time!!

      Johnny b

       

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